Nbme shelf exams reddit Thanks! I have my OBGYN shelf on Friday and I'm gearing up to take it. Q&A. Thank you! I honestly feel like complete crap, I'm studying as much as I can and I think I understand it. /r/MCAT is a place for MCAT practice, questions, discussion, advice, social networking, news, study tips and more. I'm an IMG, I have my step 2 in a month and I've never done the shelf exams (never had to). I did the 4 NBME exams the week of the shelf doing 1 a day. Those questions were much more like the exam than UWorld. If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki (/r/step2/wiki) as it has a lot of valuable information regarding advice and approaches on taking Step 2 CK, along with analytical statistics of study resources. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Reddit; Shop Generally speaking confidence is a big part of the shelf exams, my thinking was that if I do UWorld and learn things I can know max about 75% of the content before, 15% will be things that I have to think through and trust my gut and 10% will be random NBME content that is impossible to study for. Currently doing just UWorld and Tru-learn questions. Can anyone speak to how predictive they are? My scores in order: NBME 3: 23 (80) NBME 4: 20 (71) NBME 5: 21 (74) NBME 6: 22 (77) If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki (/r/step2/wiki) as it has a lot of valuable information regarding advice and approaches on taking Step 2 CK, along with analytical statistics of study resources. Reply reply Pristine-Paramedic64 • Thoughts on doing ambulatory uworld questions too, or not necessary? Reply reply Pristine-Paramedic64 • back to say do them, and if you don't have time then focus on the ambulatory Sound mind in a sound body. As far as getting tired by the end of day I found it helpful to sneak practice questions in during the day on rotation. New. NBME Practice Exams: You can buy access to retired shelf exams for $20 each off the NBME website. If I understand correctly you’re on your 2nd pass of uworld and finished half of your incorrects plus everything else listed? You’ll be fine. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now OBGYN shelf in 1 day and still failing nbme practice exams. I do not know how to interpret any of this and pretty sure it's below passing or on the lower end of passing. TIA! I took all of the surgery nbme shelf practice exams and I scored very similarly on the real thing. For example, if your school uses Shelf NBME exams, use Did anyone take NBME 5-8, and would you mind sharing your practice exam scores compared with your actual shelf score? Thanks I bought each practice shelf, i. Plus if you're lucky you get a couple of repeat questions from the NBMEs on the shelf exam but it's hardly worth it just for that unless you're struggling big time. I used step up to medicine for IM and case files/uwise for OB/GYN, I also used Uworld and practice NBME exams for both. I think OP should either study intensely until tuesday or move the exam. A Reddit brag post is nothing compared to those ego Med Student YouTube vlog channels. Thanks! Archived post. Paraphrase as much as Usually I'll pull up the NBME shelf content outlines and make a study list based on that. Most importantly, do as many questions as possible. What can I do to increase my scores and Skip to main content. I have a serious bone to pick with NBME’s, they do nothing but completely destroy my confidence and ruin my will, but then I find out that the exams are no where near as bad as the NBME’s. Watch some high yield videos on YouTube or onlinemeded videos on topics you’re I spent the week of my shelf doing my incorrects and watched Emma Holliday and Dr High Yield on YouTube. READ THE RULES BEFORE POSTING USMLE Step 2 CK is the second national board exam all United States medical students must take before graduating medical school. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Psychiatry 4 Exam for educational discussion purposes. The website I would like to know how people who relied on it faired on *shelf exams! I credit using AMBOSS all throughout MS1 and MS2 for giving me a strong knowledge base in preparation for NBME-based block exams and So I've heard of people recommending the following: 1. So I’d work primarily with Uworld and supplement with amboss if you can. Curious to hear your experiences with the practice shelf vs the real deal. Log In / Sign Up; The #1 social media platform for MCAT advice. Leave the 10-20% so you have some new questions that you haven’t seen when studying for STEP 2. It does not mean you are approximately in the 73rd percentile. Decided to not buy anymore NBME and just take the dang thing and got 9th percentile (school requires 10th). The ideal goal would be to ace the shelf so I am planning to do UWorld, Anki, NBME exams, Amboss. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Pediatrics 1 Exam for educational discussion purposes. I mainly did OME + 1/2 UW + anki + 2 hr divine youtube video on OBGYN shelf exam review the day before the exam, and ended up with a 72 on it (however the fuck shelf exams are scored is beyond me). It falls right about where the high cutoff for shelf performance Skip to main content. I have done 900 uworld questions Skip to main content. I've had a bunch of upper year students and residents recommend the First Aid: Psychiatry book, and I'm loving it, but I've also heard that there's an official NBME practice exam that's available for about $20. Reply reply airhead5 • Most people score around their NBME practice. I've been slaving on Uworld and felt like the Qs are so out there (doing FM No. I would do Anki throughout the day for questions that I was getting wrong on UWorld. It sucked. Do not quote, link to, or otherwise reproduce any exam content. As the title says, I took the Peds NBME yesterday and I wanted to leave my experience with it because there's relatively little out there. Or call in sick on that Mon I Will Update as I keep chugging along but what were people's NBME scores vs their Actual Surgery Shelf Score? My exam is next week currently: UWorld Surgery pre-incorrects - 48% NBME 5 - 78% NBME 6 - 62% -ouch NBME 7 - 68% NBME 8 -58% Actual - 69% Actual experience: Super hard, ran out of time on easily the last 15. Shocking! Strong No. I Well for shelf exams, “passing” is not determined by the NBME like how it is for the Step exams (although they have published recommendations for what should be considered passing). Uworld has been going well, mostly 80-90% on 10 question blocks, and I Skip to main content. I have failed 6/6 shelf exams (FM, peds, obgyn, psych, IM, surgery). How would I convert that to a score that is predicitive of the actual surgery clerkship shelf exam? Do I just multiply by 2 to get the % correct out of 100 (in this case, 39x2=78% correct), and then just look up the percentile that corresponds Holy fuck the practice NBME forms were nothing like the Uworld and Amboss questions and I got my shit wrecked. r/Step2 . Also considering reading IM Shelf exam is 5 days out. I have trouble passing shelf exams. Paraphrase as much as possible. I’m still getting above the 50th percentile but not as high as I have during my preclinical years. More posts you may like r/Step2. Trying to get away without Uworld if I can since it’s around $200 for the short subscription Reply I took the nbme practice exam form 3 a few days ago and I got a 23 which isn't bad. Hi! I have been getting ~ 60% on my schools Pediatric Rotation NBME exams. mynamesdaveK • All my shelfs were pass fail lol Edit: but obviously props to you and helluva writeup Reply reply synapticgangster • I literally did the same thing (minus surg and OB shelf This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - OB/GYN 3 Exam for educational discussion purposes. Old. - that NBME 9 seriously made me reconsider everything Honestly if you did the UW/Amboss study plans you'll be fine. I have about 550 UW IM questions left and have not completed any NBME's. 22 and 78). Feeling a little lost as studying doesn't seem as clear-cut as it did for Step 1. I was depressed. For step 1 the numbers seem pretty well known (a 250 is a “great score”) but if anyone If anything, I feel like comats don’t go into as many fine details as some of the NBME shelf exams. r/medicalschool A IM Shelf NBME Vs Actual Score . Our school is on a letter grading system where > 90% is an A. Look at those exams and learn what’s making it the 50/50 and how you can know the difference to chose the right answer. Expand user menu Open settings menu. If there is anybody on here that took it and passed Started M3 a few weeks ago with FM as my first rotation. It falls right about where the high cutoff for shelf performance We are going to be taking the Biochemistry Shelf Exam (NBME) in a month and I was just wondering how to study for it. 🏥 Clinical Hi everyone! Took my first shelf psychiatry exam today and was wondering if anyone could post their scores on nbmes and what they got on the real thing?!? Doesn’t matter which shelf, I am just trying to see if there is a trend. I've gone to my classmates and asked for their advice too. Not a flashcard fan personally, so anki and zanki won't work. My NBME practice was a 71 so I Skip to main content. Members Online • the_shek . Clinical Science Mastery Series, and did it under the simulation conditions on the NBME website. So for example, IM was my first shelf and I didn't keep up with studying. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. Or check I got grilled here last week when I went on a rant by completely bombing my NBME, then taking shelf less than a week later and getting mid 70’s. I also took the NBME practice exams (I paid the $20 each) that week which was very worth it as I had 5-8 word-for-word repeated questions on my actual exam. Please remember to read the following rules carefully before contributing: Read the Comment Rules and Policies found here. Are these used as practice tests before each shelf exam? How much are these and also are there answers and explanations? And what subjects are available? And I was also wondering about NBME forms. I do love amboss for the easily accessible and digestible database of information and the ability to do questions related to topics that I need more practice on. I did about 900 with 200 left, and no time to review incorrects. Is the exam very similar to the uworld internal medicine questions? Not sure which resources to use. This is destroying my confidence and I will likely have to drop out if I READ THE RULES BEFORE POSTING USMLE Step 2 CK is the second national board exam all United States medical students must take before graduating medical school. but 20-40 seemed like a happy medium. Review them at night. How hard are they and what is the best way to prep for them? Been doing U World questions and still got about 30% to go. 🏥 Clinical Did anyone take NBME 5-8, and would you mind sharing your practice exam scores compared with your actual shelf score? Thanks Archived post. However, I and several of my classmates did much better on the actual thing versus how it looked like I would do based on NBME. Do 80-90% of UWorld for a given subject. Please remember to read the following rules carefully before contributing: I have so far finished the AnKing shelf tag for Ob/Gyn, UW, and will finish AMBOSS soon. For example, for my Internal Medicine shelf I made a list of topics (chest pain, incontinence, low back pain, etc I used UWorld, Anki, and the NBME. For step 1, there were score predictors but I am Not seeing I have taken all my shelf exams except IM and FM and I need guidance. If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki (/r/step2/wiki) as it has a lot of valuable information regarding advice and approaches on taking Step 2 CK, along with Feeling the same way about shelf exams - feels like uworld, amboss give you all the pertinent info to rule out/in all answer choices. There’s no feedback (other than knowing which questions you got right or wrong), but DON’T try to use every resource recommended though! Have 1-2 main things and have options to supplement as you feel weak areas. I have the shelf in a week. UW scores are all over the place. And the. Passing is determined by your own institution’s grading policy. Paraphrase as much as Hi all ! I really love this thread and was wondering if I could get some thoughts on ONLY using AMBOSS + NBME exams for shelf preparation. I have about 1 week left till my surgery shelf and my practice NBME scores have been okay, but I was hoping to get somewhere in the mid 80s to boost my clinical grades. Assuming you are studying during a matching clinical rotation, it was really helpful I took my first NBME practice shelf exam on OBGYN and scored a 14, which is equal to the approximate subject examination score of 58, and a 60% correct. From what I have seen, it seems as if the COMBANK question bank for Level surgery was my first shelf and i passed by doing all the Zanki step 2 surgery cards (there weren't too many as i recall), watching Emma Holiday + Divine Intervention surgery videos and doing about 80% of the surgery UWorld (~500 questions, I ran out of time) + 1 surgery NBME and reviewed / made cards out of all of those. I have heard that AMBOSS gears itself away from the more common shelf questoins to more of the obscure/lower yield topics. So second question: UWise summation exam vs. ) : score 23 (80) Took NBME 8 the morning before my Exam Friday afternoon (i know, chaotic, but I wanted to get another NBME worded exam in) : score 22 (77) After the exam I did not think I would honor. If it was just gyn and breast Id be ok. However, almost all policies that I know of set the cutoff as 5th%ile. Top. I have not honored any of my shelf exams and am always scoring in the 20 percentile range. Recently heard about CMS. This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Surgery 3 Exam for educational discussion purposes. Just be calm and confident. High Yield on YouTube is great I can’t remember if there is an Emma Holliday video for IM but she is also a great one for shelf review. OzCello • Got a 27 (100th percentile) My experience is that the shelfs always felt very similar to the NBME practices. NBME CMS Forms The #1 social media platform for MCAT advice. I’m one month out from test day, taking NBMEs over the next couple of weeks and overall did decently on my end of rotation shelf exams. I thought the exam was 20% actual pediatrics-specific and 80% general medicine that applies to all patient populations. Your school is able to pick the questions, and the P values for those specific questions can vary drastically. After looking at some Reddit posts, it seems like this may not be enough. I passed my practice exam just fine at 72% (all I need to do is pass at 60%). Shelf exams are a different beast. Obviously n = 1 and I I took the nbme practice exam form 3 a few days ago and I got a 23 which isn't bad. r/medicalschool A chip A close button. There were only 5 questions on milestones. I was under the impression that finishing and leaning from the UWORLD over the rotation you are on was enough to do well on shelf. It For example, for psych, “self assessment score” of 20 is “approximate subject examination score” of 76. g. I’ve started saving all NBMEs for the last week to try to How important are Nbme shelf exams in terms of getting to residency? It seems the scale is a bit tight for some of them, so it tends to pull most people closer to the 50th percentile. If the average for you shelf exams are 82-84, Practice NBME Shelf Exams . Since this is my first clerkship, I am admittedly unsure how much study time I'll have so I'm curious to hear feedback. Whereas the shelf questions are very vague, leave out tons of necessary info, and require a best guess after narrowing down to 2 or 3 answer choices. Hey fam, trying to figure out if I can relax or chill. Share Sort by: Best. I take the NBME practice exams and like their format better. Is the finseth review + practice NBME exams sufficient or do I need to add a qbank? The UW Qbank was pretty helpful and got it done in <2 weeks + one NBME practice shelf exam Reply jony770 • Additional comment actions. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise I figure STEP1 is hard because a lot of schools use shitty, in-house exams, but then for 3rd year the NBME exams are standardized so You’re kinda studying for NBME exams From the get-go that way. What can I do in these last 24hrs? My weakness is definitely obstetrics. UWorld vs. I'm legit Skip to main content. This is my first shelf, and I honestly don't know what to expect. Help. It's predicting that you would get approximately 73% of the questions on an actual shelf exam correct. I was wondering if the practice NBMEs are comparable in terms of difficulty to the shelf exam? I just took NBME 3 and thought it wasn't too bad compared to Uworld. Currently on remediation, failed peds again. I will list the dates I took the practice tests and the dates of the real tests. I’m repeating what the attending surgeons at my school said about the shelf exam. My only goal was to pass the exam so I never have to do OBGYN again I got 100% percentile on my FM shelf but tbh I already honored OBGYN and Peds shelf exams, so YMMV. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. NBME had much shorter stems compared to World. I’m an M4 so I’m not a surgeon. You do you!! Reply reply GubernaculumFlex • it's not Reply reply More replies More replies. I've found this [sample items version] My FM shelf was the most random assortment of questions I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Can anyone speak to their difficulty/if these new forms are more representative of the current FM shelf? I've heard that the older ones were not representative at all. Don’t let it phase you. I’m assuming these are just step 2 practice exams taken I'll be starting my first M3 rotation (Psych) soon and wanted to get feedback regarding my study plan. e. for the shelf exams i did them i did well (even cramming them in the night before). And then when I'll study, I'll try to think about how the questions are likely to be asked and as I've taken more shelves I've made note of the topics I feel like I've had difficulty with. NBME Shelf exams and time uworld blocks supplemented with OBGYN dorian anki Reply reply Top 3% Rank by size . I really don't know how to study for these shelf exams. 🏥 Clinical I just wanna pass. Hello, I have taken the NBME Practice shelf Hi, I'm in Canada and we're using the NBME exam for our Psych shelf exam. It really wasn’t all that difficult, it just had exactly no content in common with any practice exam lol to the point where I think I could’ve taken it on day one of the rotation and had the same score Some DO schools use NBME shelf exams (the one MDs take) instead of the NBOME ones. If you are viewing this on the new Hey guys, I'm a first year and my school uses NBME exams to test us at the end of each block. I did my retake 4 weeks later and finished all the UWorld questions NBME 4: 20 (74) NBME 6: 14 (56) (day before retake) Freaked out If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki (/r/step2/wiki) as it has a lot of valuable information regarding advice and approaches on taking Step 2 CK, along with analytical statistics of study resources. So be confident in how you think about questions more so than trying to memorize every If you get weekends off, use those to your advantage! Take an NBME practice shelf exam on weekends, I found several questions word-for-word on those practice shelfs on my actual exam. Open comment sort options. Neuro shelf is in 2 weeks, just need to pass. I was planning to do all 4 NBMEs, but it would not give me time to UWise's summative exam at the end. Hello r/NBME, This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Internal Medicine 1 Exam for educational discussion purposes. I will be taking the NBOME shelf exams not the NBME if that helps. I have heard Lippincott and BRS Biochem (the Hello r/NBME, This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Internal Medicine 1 Exam for educational discussion purposes. Got like 55-60% on the NBME practices, thought I would fail My school has NBME shelf exams that are 110 questions each but when doing the math how would it be possible to get a 73 for example? That would mean you got 80. Do you use the “approximate subject examination score” to find out what percentile you are in? It looks like 76 is 15th percentile for psych shelf exam based on this chart. The NBME score report provides us with a "self-assessment score" and "approximate subject exam score" (e. NBME regulation are VERY strict with this sort of thing, and if the school did this, their asses would lose NBME exam privileges for quite some time, possibly permanently depending on how serious they considered the infraction. Members Online • throwaway332282020. The multiple choice test is complemented by the subjective Step 2 CS exam. I’ve just been using Uworld to prepare for my shelf exams. I know the NBME FM practice shelf hasn’t been around as long as the others so it may not be a great predictor of actual performance. Paraphrase as much as Just wondering what resources some of you have used for preparing for your shelf exams during your rotations. Which is more representative of the shelf? Thanks so much for all your help :). Finished 1st pass of Uworld and just finished NBME 9 and 10 to see where I'm at (226 and 249 respectively). I think 85-90% (raw) of the exam is preppable, but the last 10-15% is random ass nonsense within crit care, neph, GI, or card medicine that is extremely hard to get right. Obviously n = 1 and I can't say I'm the best test taker on test day, but it gives a general guide to use throughout your M3 year! NBMEs were fairly helpful overall to get the vibe of This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Psychiatry 1 Exam for educational discussion purposes. I Having my very first shelf exam in about 2 weeks. if you can list When I was going through third year, I really wanted to know how the practice NBMEs actually correlated to a shelf exam scores so I included my experiences here. I am having the hardest time trying to figure out how to study for the nbme family medicine shelf exam. I didn’t pass my OB shelf the first time, 2nd time I only passed the first of 3 of the NBME and somehow scored my best on the actual thing. New comments My internal medicine shelf is quickly approaching. I spoke to a friend of mine who used to tutor me, he suggested changing I’m not sure what the not a surgeon means. I felt the surgery shelf was fair. I think my evaluation for the current rotation would be pretty good, but I am worried about shelf exam score. Scoring at a 62 is too close to the failing cut off of 60 Reply reply [deleted] • Comment deleted by user. Can explain the strategy I used, hit my school’s honors cutoff on every NBME SHELF. Trying to If you did well on the CMS forms the shelf should be similar. The MCAT (Medical College Admission Test) is offered by the AAMC and is a required exam for admission to medical schools in the USA and Canada. I felt like I had to pick the Hello r/NBME, This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - OB/GYN 1 Exam for educational discussion purposes. the NBMEs. I keep hearing how brutal the physiology NBME is and apparently 10 people failed it on their first attempt last year at my school (according to some second years) so I'm pretty terrified lol. What percentile 73% puts you in depends on the shelf and the distribution that particular cohort. For UWorld I did 25 Q's a day on weekdays, and 40-50 on each day during weekends and days off. Should I: Focus on on completing as much UWorld as possible and do 1 NBME? Do less Uworld and complete 2-3 NBME's? And any particular subjects to focus on or skip? I've read that neuro isn't as HY. Correlation between NBME practice shelf exam scores and real shelf exam scores . Plus the yoga was incredible for back pain from studying. I was It more closely matches the content and difficulty of USMLE exams. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Reddit; Shop Collectible Avatars; Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. NBMEs are alot easier but im still getting 65%. Hi all! I think NBME just dropped 2 new FM forms - 4 and 5. I wouldn't shell out 100-120 bucks to do all the available NBMEs. I could go way longer and didn’t hurt during the exam. Explanations for NBME Practice shelf exams . 3 questions correct, not an integer, so not possible. My exam is next week and just wondering if I can trust my score on these haha. I know it's a stupid question but hear me out. If you have to choose one, go with uworld. Just because it worked out for you, When I was going through third year, I really wanted to know how the practice NBMEs actually correlated to a shelf exam scores so I included my experiences here. Just Skip to main content. More info may be found here. 🏥 Clinical I'm studying for my surgery shelf and I was wondering if buying the NBME practice exams is worth it for the explanations? I did Form 3 offline, but not sure if I should just splurge some money on NBME. Most of my friends who got north of 250 on Step 1 ended up with 85-89% on the surgery shelf, with really intense Let's say I hypothetically got hold of a "free" NBME surgery practice form 1, and got 39/50 correct. About 5 on peds MSK like Legg-Calves-Perthes Not too sure why talk about shelf exam scores is unheard of everywhere I’ve looked but I have no idea how to interpret my score from my first shelf exam. But realized it was my first NBME shelf and I really didn't put much into it. I got a raw score of 83 but I’m not sure if this is a percent, percentile, or what this means. I feel it's a waste of time for thorough content review (low benefit-to-cost). And this may be terrible advice, but if you notice your residents are really chill, ask for the last 3-4 days off before your shelf. Took NBME 7 on Sunday before exam : score 22 (77) took NBME 6 Thursday morning before exam (procrastinated a bit. NBME full Step 2 practice exams: forms 9-15 (so 6 exams total?) 200 questions each 2. The #1 social media platform for MCAT advice. Make sure to split it up so you’re doing 15-20 questions a day with 1 day totally off. Archived post. In my school we take the NBOME, imo questions are longer than NBMEs and we have 2 h 30 min for 125 questions (vs NBME 2 h 45 min for 110 qs), which makes it pretty difficult to get through the exam. I haven’t and won’t ever take the ABSITE so I can’t say what should be done differently. ADMIN MOD Shelf exams vs. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you want to add anything Dr. Is there historical data available or a conversion guide to interpret these scores as an approximate percentile? I know this may vary based on when you take the shelf/how everyone performs, but I'd like to at least know a ballpark range. . And rotation experience doesn't correlate in the least to shelf scores. Controversial. While it is passing, I am not close to honoring and am really trying to adjust my approach to IM and FM. Best. I just took this shelf like 3 weeks ago, and tbh, it's a bitch of an exam lol. Just make sure to know some basic omm for the FM and Peds comat Just make sure to know some basic omm for the FM and Peds comat nbme exams are literally invaluable. I did all the nbme exams (except 9), which I thought was helpful. If you are viewing this on the new Reddit layout, please take some time and look at our wiki (/r/step2/wiki) as it has a lot of valuable Keep grinding. My UWorld blocks have been slightly above the average for the past 3 weeks. This post will contain the answers to the SHELF - Surgery 4 Exam for educational discussion purposes. when i didn’t do them (medicine) 73(first one) i went from 73–86–88–84–88–92 (medicine, surg, psych, peds, ob, family). If time permits do ambulatory UW Qs as well. Know that the nbme will always throw some oddball way of asking a concept. Any DOs use the NBME practice shelf exams during COMAT prep? Wondering if they're good practice for the COMATs? I'd imagine it can't not help. wanu vsv pcxw ntncv rfmd ywhceob mcxi vumyzk fmlu dqhoh