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8x57 modern loads I have an 8X57 Mauser built w/ quality modern steel and would like to find some loading data that loads up to 30-06 pressure- not the low pressure loads I find common in IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant etc. Always check for signs of pressure, leakage and parts problems. The 2004 Remington Model 700 Classic is the first sporting factory-made rifle in America chambered in 8x57 Mauser. 697 # 20680141: Gunpowder Modern methods used for fox control Hare Hunting Bird Hunting . 5 gr 2145 37k cup 20) "Hodgdon No. kiwi hunta New member. I have enough 8mm bullets on hand, from 150-220 grain to keep my 8x57, 98 Sporter, going for a lot of seasons. Loading manuals typically list lower pressure loads for The 8x57 JS and the rimmed version 8x57 JRS are both very flexible cartridge that duplicate the performance of the . I've just won a Remington Classic in 8x57 from the Superbowl. Hornady used to make an 8x57 load that was 2550 fps with their 195 Interlock. More than tight enough and heavy enough to drop a deer and Speer and Hornady use pressure limits of ca. 308 makes a fine hunting round. I really like Quickload for this situation. Today not many bolt action rifles are made in 8x57 JS, but a good many double rifles and Has anyone had any experience with an 8x57 mm original spec for the 7. Bullet: Norma FMJ 123 gr: Bullet weight: 8 g / 123 gr: B. 318 loading. Any load data for heavier 8x57 loads would be really appreciated (writing about the 8mm Rem Mag) that "any comparison between this modern number and the 748 will work fine in the 8x57. 8mm Mauser (8x57) Handloading Tips If any rifle cartridge needs the attention of a U. I have three Blasers, and Sauer in 8X57, and load these to around 2500-2550 depending on which rifle. Mine is an 8x57 and I have run handloads just under max with no problems. 27" 1998: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33. W748 @ 2410fps and 37000 CUP. The 8x57 IS is mostly used either in old rifles chambered during the last century or by enthusiasts some of the other old mauser cartridges such as 7x57 and 6. For jacketed, anything over IMR4895 or a similar powder, and for cast, Alliant 2400 or Accurate 5744. I use Red Dot alot in 8x57, 303B, 35 Whelen and 30-06 reduced loads with both jacketed & cast bullets. Forget those light weights. I. Wisconsin. Powders include IMR, Accurate, Hodgdon, Vihtavuori, Alliant, Winchester The loads mentioned here for all the calibers, except for the Federal Premium . Some of the Norma 8x57 rounds do become a bit pricey, but both Sellier & Bellot Modern load data specifically for the 8x57J is essentially nonexistent. Contest: Show Us Your Winter Gear! Happy New Year everyone! Join the contest below and share a picture of your winter gear or what you're doing to stay warm. 84Mtn_EER #15916004 03/19 My favorite target load for the 8x57 is 150gr Sierra over 34. Being a Sako, just about everything clusters into less than in inch at 100m. *Rifles chambered for the 8x57 were manufactured with two different bore diameters. Somwhere around 190 - 200gr. They are listed to produce 2475 fps. Posted By: Taconic11 Re: A couple of 8x57 questions - 01/28/22. 308 Winchester, or just slightly behind the . My best loads shoot super well, but most times they are not "red-hot" and the rifle seems to shoot it's best at about 2400-2500. Hornady SST. I think the very fact that manufacturers like Redding make a 8X57 die (for the JS cartridge) and not one specifically for the JRS is indicative of the fact that I worked up a load for my Sauer Ceratech 8x57 using the Hornady 170gr SST and I wanted to see how it would expand so I conducted a jug test. A faster burning powder like IMR-4064 would suit you better in the 8x57 Mauser, your charge of IMR-4350 looks too light. Forums. To further complicate matters, the 8 mm I looked at different load books for IMR4895 powder loads for the 8x57mm JS Mauser cartridge. For the 8x57 round 125 to150 grain it calls for 44 grains 3031 at velocity of 2815-2750 For a 225 grain bullet 43 grains of 3031 at velocity 2301. Try The Conely Precision Loads. Texas. I load my 1900 6. Have got my hands on an old Lyman 8mm mould that throws a 215 gas checked bullet that is very close in prfile to both the 196 fmj's and to the Sierria match bullet. Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters 8x57 mauser loads: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: 8x57 mauser loads #1672133 09/13/07. The calibre pages listed are 8x57I, 8x57IR ('Infanterie' for J), 8x57IS, and 8x57IRS. , etc. 323-inch bullets and the data in this Is there any reason I could not run modern loads in the aforementioned rifle? I'd also like to know scope mount (ring) recommendations for a Zeiss 2. I pair it up with 36gr of WC844 (milsurp H335-10% load data) in cutdown 30-06 winchester brass. Show all 8 x 57 Modern methods used for fox control Hare Hunting These loads take the 8x57 from the old idea of . The final designation of . 318 inch is mighty close to . IC B3 Re: Modern loads in a BRNO 21H 7x57? weagle #12149510 07/16 Played with that, and it seems to follow the same logicslowest powders I use in the 8 x 57 are like H 322, 3031, Benchmark. Hornady JS loads. The 170gn Speer semi spitzer is also a good cheap bullet for whacking pigs. There max listed loads are where I started at and worked up for the . The 185 gr Remington 8mm bullet is designed for the 8mm Rem Magnum. Logged Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles A couple of 8x57 questions: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: A couple of 8x57 questions #16875146 01/23/22. Originally it contained a 227-grain round nose bullet that measured . Today not many bolt action rifles are made in 8x57 JS, but a good many double rifles and combination guns Hello gentlemen. Thanks for the help. 5x55SE is about 50K psi max, the European CIP spec is about 55K psi. 1) "Sierra" [newer than 1971]: 150 gr 50. The 8mm Mauser (aka 8x57 Mauser was adopted by the German military in 1888 utilizing . I went up to the book max of 51. For most 8x57 shooting, the Speer 200 grain bullet with 44 grains of IMR 4064 is a relatively mild load. 92JS is a 154 grain bullet at 2900+fps whilst the 06 uses a 150 grain bullet at 2700 fps and modern commercial at Hodgdon website - didn't list 8mm-06). Because of the varying bore diameters, and because of the metallurgy concerns, it may be wise to have your rifle Load data for modern use is more consistent between lots and the same loads can be used between lots. faucettb said: Welcome to the forum. Posts: 181. W. The S on the ring of the 1888 is supposed to indicate conversion to the 8x57 IS cartridge which had not only a larger diameter bullet, but the overall length was greater also. Joined Jul 17, 2002 Got down to an inch load with 45 grns of 2209 and the 170 hot cors with the 8x57 but couldn't replicate it, has been in for a trim and recrown and going out to the range again this weekend. Do keep in mind H4895 will deliver slightly better results than IMR4895. 323” sporting ammunition became 8x57 JS. Rules are simple, be nice and join in. 25" and using a "pressure ceiling" similar to a 30-06, 8mm-06 ballistics can be matched by the 8x57, with less powder, especially in a commercial action or modern military action. By 1905 bullet diameter was changed to . Moving the charge to maximum has the load hitting almost 2" high at 100 yards and a little low at 200 yards with no changes to I would like to hear what people are using for deer in the 8x57. I have a fondness for the cartridge and rifles even though they insist on putting the bolt on the wrong side. stiff kicker in light carbines. And a good bit over the 6. Combined with a chronograph, you can test Quickload predictions and start to really hone in on real pressures. 323 inch, shooters can look to the 8x57JS for guidance, but they must be careful to keep estimated breech pressure well below 45,000 psi in deference to the Mauser-Mannlicher action design and age. Re: 8x57 mauser loads . The new cartridge was also referred to as the 7. Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Is there any use for the 8x57 Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 3 of 3 : 1: 2: 3: Re: Is there any use for the 8x57 ColoradoMatt #11971602 04/14/17. 1gr @ approx 2500fps for a hunting load. Steelhead #1676924 Need some info on this 180 and 200 running in a modern action. and come very close. 8x57 built on 30-06 action (can load out heavy bullets with room to spare) brass can be A friend has an 18. Refer to the current SPEER® Reloading Manual for handloading instructions. It's misleading to extrapolate from the . 323-inch diameter bullets through one of these older 8X57s with a . 1 in 7x57 and decided to try a ladder test using Reloader 17. For a drilling, you need to be in the same MV range as 196-gr Sellier & Bellot or Norma ammunition - about 2,380 FPS. This is a mild load, but none of the deer in the freezer have made any negative remarks about it. This “32 caliber” bullet moving at speeds of the . This powder gave me about 100fps more velocity than loads with Varget in the 21. 0 1778 27. The rifle is a double square bridge. They I have an 8X57 Mauser built w/ quality modern steel and would like to find some loading data that loads up to 30-06 pressure- not the low pressure loads I find common in IMR, Hodgdon, Alliant etc. L: 68. Improved Military Rifle SR 4759. 30-06 Springfield, making the 8x57 a I've been researching loads for modern actions for the 7x57. It`s nice to know many? elk have fallen to it. Quite common The 8x57 JS and the rimmed version 8x57 JRS are both very flexible cartridge that duplicate the performance of the . 6-inch barrel that some mixed-up German ordnance officer named “Gewehr,” which means I recently loaded my first 8x57 loads using the 196gr Hornady HPBT bullet and I was quite surprised that the throat severely limited the OAL of the cartridge. 0-5/8" three shot group from 8mm Mauser / 8x57mm Mauser / 8x57mm JS Mauser (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 154 loads. For the handloader, the modern 7x57 is essentially a slightly down-sized . It's a very easy caliber to load for, and easy to get decent results. 8mm Mauser (8x57JS) – Pet Loads But what is almost never The only load I've tried so far is 150gr Hornady SP/IMR4064/WLR/R-P cases, my standard load for my other (mil-surp) 8x57 rifles. It was the BRNO-made G33/40. The original factory loads 8mm Mauser / 8x57mm Mauser / 8x57mm JS Mauser (Hodgdon Data) reloading The only load I've tried so far is 150gr Hornady SP/IMR4064/WLR/R-P cases, my standard load for my other (mil-surp) 8x57 rifles. Ramshot Big Game I already have the 338 and am thinking of selling it and buying the 8x57. My H-4350 load is actually lower in pressure than the 198 grain S&B factory load. Hornady is now loading the 8x57 with their 196 grain match bullet called Vintage Match. 260 Remington, This is why Remington loads their 8X57 to a glorified 30-30 or more 32 Win Special speeds. Rifle is an old sporterized Mauser with the original military barrel so not expecting just the greatest accuracy. 323 or . MikeG. My heavy load for 8x57 hunting uses the LEE Karabiner Mold with its 200gr gas-checked flatnose design. 5 Creed. My rifle is an old 1939 VZ-24 Mauser - Shoots good; Head space is fine; Bolt face is unblemished. Developing Pet Loads/ Hanloader's Winter Finding/ Heavy Bullets Aren't Always Better/ In Defense of Non-Filling Case Loads/ Jacketed Bullets Wanted/ Loading Big Game Bullets for Deer/ Loading for the "Old Ones"/ Loads for Lever Guns/ Medley of Powders/ My Favorite Cartridges/ Obsolescent Rifle Cartridges/ Reloading Black Powder Rifle Cartridges/ Reloder 12/ Roberts' I wouldn't say we're big 8x57 fans, I handload so performance oriented ammunition loaded to the full capability of the cartridge in a strong modern rifle would have been no problem. Mauser, including the 8x57, . Thanks in advance! This was most dramatic past 1,000 yards. The only chambering in modern rifles I know of is the Rem 700 Classic, I think 8x57 was the chambering for the 2005 Classic. With the 8x57, all the caveats apply make sure it's an "S" (. 92x57 mm Mauser, 8x57 mm Mauser, 8x57 mm JS and 8x57 mm S. , but I don't have any of those powders on hand. P. Good accuracy(1 1/4" @ 100yds), and was cycling without the gun beating its self up. 343 Sectional Density 0. The H-4895 loads for the 200 quality, parts, bore and condition, start out with mild loads and light bullets to see how things go. If one wants to get the best out of a 8x57 Vithavouri N150, 550 or Norma URP The loads I worked up were within data for 170 and 200 gr bullets. The only time you should really be worried is if there is serious and I Hodgdon loads are just fine for a modern 8x57 - ie: M98. 30/06 to the 8x57 - the added bore and bullet diameter makes for significant Thinking of getting a modern european bolt gun in 8x57. 228 inches; Maximum Case Length: 2. It seems 195 Hornady bullets were getting right at 2700 with great accuracy, which seems about right for 30-06 pressure level in that cartridge. The 8x57 i am considering is a modern rifle factory chambered in the caliber and a submoa 4 factory loads, avail only from 1 company. 308 Winchester, etc. Minimize Issue Info Hide Show. 8x57 built on 30-06 action (can load out heavy bullets with room to spare) brass can be The factory ammo availability was pretty poor and the factory loads are at are the 220 and 250gr woodliegh RN, the Hawk 220 and 250gr RN, and 220gr sierra GK. A 150 grain Spitzer bullet has a muzzle velocity of approximately 2,850 ft/s depending on the load. New 8x57 mm JS Mauser hunting KFW - I test out some Speer 170 grain Hot-Cor bullet in 8mm Mauser. Now to 8mm mauser specific issues. How does a 180gr TSX bullet at over 2800 FPS sound? Unless you're looking at game larger than elk or moose, the old 8X57 with modern loads is a fine round for most all of N. OP. bullet of 46. I test for accuracy and expansion in water jugs from 50 yards. 92x57mm, or 8x57IS by C. In the The rifle in question is a modern manufacture over-under so yes, it is JRS for sure. I am pushing my modern 6. 5 x 8 Conquest. For the other rifles I load 49. Posts: 28,456. Please share your Both loads worked fine, as has the 7x57 on a total of 15 species of big game in four countries. I have acquired a nice little Mauser and it will be my backup/foul weather rifle this year. #2400, Reloader 7, 11, 12, and 15 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. 5gr. Could be a collector except the stock has been repaired. 323”. What I do have is Green Dot, 700x, IMR 4350 and 4064. Surplus 8x57 mm S Patrone Most surplus 8x57 mm JS Mauser Ball ammunition on the market today is the . I would also like to hear what works well in the K98/M48 type rifles as good practice loads. Reloader 17 runs similar to IMR4350 and the maximum load printed by Speer using 175 grain bullet I already have the 338 and am thinking of selling it and buying the 8x57. Well that and the Mauser 88 that was an open top manilcher action. Properly loaded in a modern firearm with new components, the 8x57 will make 2800+ with the 170 grain offering and a solid 2600 with the 200 Partition. Campfire Tracker. and the numbers were impresive. The potential for someone to use 8x57JS loading data in a M88 with it's 0. A. It will likely explode if you try to fire the modern . 890" Speer Part No. Using bullets from Hornady SP. It is roughly a 300 Savage equivalent and is used by the grandkids. 323, and most common variant. Posts: 4,963. If you like Lee stuff, get a copy of Richard Lee's Modern Reloading, and look for his formula for reducing loadsthe formula works well for reduced cast bullet loads as well as jacketed. the 338 is a 51MM case based on 308 winchester or 7. O. 84Mtn_EER #15916004 I have some loads to check in the next week or so using the hornaday 170 interlock with IMR There are also hot loads with premium 180gr & 200gr bullets made by Conley Precision Ammo and Stars & Stripes Ammo. 5 gr. 84Mtn_EER #15916004 I have some loads to check in the next week or so using the hornaday 170 interlock with IMR 8x57 loads. Otherwise S&B does a good job about max. Barrels marked 8x57 I or J are restricted to . All my life I've been a "jack of all trades" and a master of very few - and I use the term "master" very loosely! I have a nice '42 Turkish Mauser (Kale) in nice condition. Steve's Pages shows a charge FWIW the Lee Modern Reloading manual lists their "do not exceed" load for a 170gr. In Other examples of new modern rounds that duplicate the optimal performance of older more established rounds are the . 62 russian. Using bullets from Hornady RN. 2277 Propellant Case Primer Weight (grains) It is splendid with 175gr, 185gr, and 200gr bullets and I have taken Elk with all of these bullet weights with the 8x57. 5x55 benefit greatly from the availability of modern bullets. Old it may be, but not decrepit! A hunter could use it exclusively for CXP2 and CXP3 game, at any reasonable range, and never miss a beat. 30-06 in I would like to hear what people are using for deer in the 8x57. 7X57 is still quite popular in the UK with deerhunters (deerstalkers we call them), but looking at the loads quoted on our 'Stalking Directory' Forum, I suspect many are loading to barely above 40,000 psi in modern rifles - but they still kill deer But when you get into the European loads like Mauser 98US said and the two are about equal in a modern action. Explore the world of Nosler, renowned for crafting the finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, and brass. 318-inch roundnose bullets (8x57mm J version) weighing 227 grains and loaded with smokeless powder. it is nice to see the pressures associated with the loads. I tested this bullet previously but I have well over 200 of these so I figured Id try some other powders and seating depths. I am using Rem 700 and modern new brass so should be able to confidently start in the high end for 8x57 and push it, since I DO know what rifle I am using, unlike the manufacturers. I have seen some data for "reduced loads" for 8mm & 7. Modern loads have to take into account that you may use the ammo in a Gew88 or similar vintage firearm which were completely out of German arsenals by 1920, let alone 1940. I plan to load 185 and 200 grain bullets. My 8X57 is a full-stocked carbine and with only an 19" barrel I give up a bit of velocity. If I am going to stay with this bullet (one of the few that is available in 8mm) then I may need to re-cut the throat deeper by quite a bit so that the magazine becomes the limiting factor. 323 bore rifles. If you have a larger ring mauser that can take modern pressures, try a 200 grain Nosler PT over IMR-4895. 323" 8mm Spitzer SP Hot-Cor® Weight (grains) 150 Ballistic Coefficient 0. Always consult your rifle's manual or a qualified gunsmith before using any ammunition in vintage or antique firearms. These figures make the 8x57 a force to reckon with in the Deer/Elk/Moose woods. H380, H414, H450, H4350 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. Some people told me that modern ammo is dangerous and should not be shot because of the pressure being too high. 5 inch barrel. In all the years i've drug my 8x57 all over Alaska and the lower 48 states harvesting meat for my freezer, Is the Sweedish cartrage a weak case desing like the 30-30 because even loads for new guns appear mild. 318-inch groove! We will make five different 8X57 Mauser loads, utilizing the below bullets: All these new 8X57 loads will be full power but will stay within SAAMI pressure specs. IMR 4198(reduced load) Remington CCI 200 25. If you have a larger ring mauser that can take modern The 8mm Mauser (aka 8x57 Mauser was adopted by the German military in 1888 utilizing . The loads I worked up were within data for 170 and 200 gr bullets. I handload so performance oriented ammunition loaded to the full capability of the cartridge in a strong modern rifle would have been no problem. Seating bullets to 3. CowboyTim. In modern rifles, The 8x57 Mauser JS was designed in the early 1900s and is considered a classic European caliber cartridge Hornady and powder loads include H4350, H414, H380, H335, and IMR-4064 loads. 30-06, . loaded today along with some wildcats and shows loads with both IMR and Hodgdon powders best suited for each round. 62 inches; Case: Remington; Primer: Remington 9 1/2 Large Rifle; Bullet Diameter: . 5" Shaw Stainless Steel barrel and a Scout Scope. 30-06 and similar cartridges. The barrel is 24" long. 5 gr 2145 37k The 8mm Mauser (aka 8x57 Mauser, 7. Doubt that there would be enough interest for two different +p 8x57 loads to justify the production. I wouldn't think that it would be a hot seller other than the Classic collecters so you might be able to find one. 748 load at about 2800 psi below the CIP maximum for modern 8x57's. This has separate pages of Min-Max loads with MVs for the old calibre & its successor using the same powders R902, R903, and R907 in rimless & rimmed. I know why they under load them, but I've done my homework. 318" bore could result in excessive pressures for the action. But I think you will like, both the reduction in recoil and the accuracy. ) was adopted by the German military in 1888 in the Model 88 commission rifle. Getting the right powder at first can save alot of time working up loads. tho in a modern firearm. Do NOT use this data or Barnes . 7X57 is not the only one that has this problem 8X57 cartridges can fire in 1888 Commission Rifles, for instance and they definitely have a weaker action, chamber and barrel than just about any modern firearm and some of the 1888 rifles Hello everyone. As a part of the redesign of the M/88 cartridge, projectile diameter was increased from . Using the -10% and -10% rule I get 34. Velocities for the 8x57 Mauser—in European loads—tend to run about the same as the . Accurate powder lists the CIP limits as 97% of . Please share your Got a set of 8x57 dies and 50 new cases coming and need advice on which powder(s) to try. handloader, it is the 8mm Mauser (8x57mm). . This is Been working on finding a load for my 8x57 with the Hornady 170gr SST. There was certainly no Jack O'Conner type gun writer constantly singing the praises of the 8x57. I bought a Rem. I am looking to make reduced loads for my M-48A, using the Lee 170g RN with gas checks. The rifle has a 24 inch barrel, and shoots very well after I beded it. The sectional density of these has to be . I would like to find a good deer load with either 150 or 185 gr bullets. 50,000 cup for their 8x57 loads, while IMR uses 37,000 cup. 244 inches; Trim to Some load up the 8mm to modern pressures, some don't. I was gifted a Sporterized Version from my I tried published minimum starting loads using Win 748 and 760 powders but got a several misfires and wound up pulling the rest of the loads. Safe in my rifle, work up My dad had mine for awhile and came to the conclusion that RL17 was a better powder for modern-pressure loads with bullets of around 200 grains. 8mm Mauser / 8x57mm Mauser / 8x57mm JS Mauser (Using 150 GR Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 48 loads. 205 COAL Tested 2. I've got a few boxes of PPU 8x57 IS 12,85g 198g. I don't have an old . Thread starter kiwi hunta; Start date Mar 10, 2011; Mar 10, 2011 #1 K. I was looking at shooting the 195gr. Most printed data is extremely conservative because of the older 98 actions, they like to keep PSI at 45,000. to 250gr. Gun: Mauser Model K98 (German); Barrel Length: 23. I've been reading through the posts relating to reduced loads and find a lot of great info for loads using 3031, 2400, Red Dot, etc. I'm getting 2,515 on chrono at 10' with A friend has an 18. I do not hand load so it will only be factory ammo that I can purchase. Is there any reason I could not run modern loads in the aforementioned rifle? I'd also like to know scope mount (ring) recommendations for a Zeiss 2. I currently have 150gr and 170gr bullets. with out problems, all the groups have to be sure of the rifle and condition before you use these modern loads. 0 gr. The starting load from the Hornady manual is sighted to shoot dead on at 100 yards. Reloading data for 8x57 JS. There was another Wehrmacht ’98 Mauser 8x57mm that deserves attention. Home. 30-06, and it works just as well for general big-game hunting with about I already have the 338 and am thinking of selling it and buying the 8x57. On top it is stamped 8mm Max. Joined: Mar 2011. That is the benchmark load that I would like to duplicate. 300 or better! What loads have worked I wouldn't say we're big 8x57 fans, I handload so performance oriented ammunition loaded to the full capability of the cartridge in a strong modern rifle would have been no problem. New posts any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. I know that to get the true potential you need to load for it and I plan on doing just that. manufacturers have I load for a couple 8x57's. 83. with out problems, all the groups under two inches. It's a great cartridge, with modern powders and I wouldn't feel the least bit undergunned if it was the only cartridge I was able to use. Was wondering if anybody has played with this bullet in the 8X57, and what kind of results they got. Barrels marked 8x57 IS or JS, or 8mm S or simply S, are suitable for Barnes’ . My rifle is a modern action Sauer so I try to load it to its potential. 323 inch; Maximum COAL: 3. One of the things that gets me is that the Germans loaded the cartridge with a 198 I also have some Nosler factory ammunition with the 200 Accubond. Discover our extensive lineup, including Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition, and more. 00 in Canada) and lists all normal ctgs. Those loads are I have a new to me Lee two cavity mould. I've got a No. Powders include IMR, Winchester, Hodgdon I own a modern, storng and new rifle (new action and barrel) in 8X57 JS, and I want to reload it using Speer 170gr bullets. By which I mean that they are moderately priced ammo loaded with standard bullets. 30-06 and similar However as the latter type of guns has a weaker action the loads should be reduced in order not to exceed the pressure limits. manufacturers have That was sort of the end of the story, very little about fact that many / most 8mms were built on the amazing 98 actions in both military and commercial configurations or of the ballistic potential with modern loads. CowboyTim OP. , so if you have an ordinary, in shooting Go for it. H4895, AA 2520, and Win748 have all proven to be I load the 180gn Ballistic Tip in my Sako 8x57 with H4895 (AR2206H). 5 Creedmoor was flatter shooting, though, compared to the slower 7x57 heavy-bullet loads. , which shot better than the other charge weights in this rifle. Bullet weights for modern 8x57 hunting ammunition run between 170 and 200 grains, though the handloader has bullets weighing between 125 and 220 grains at his or her disposal. 308 Winchester, I bought a Rem. Accuracy with iron sights is 4" at 100 yards. 323” bullets in these smaller-diameter bores. But the CFE 223 load with the 150 grain bullet operates at about 47000 CUP which is perfectly safe in any 98 Mauser. But with 180 and 200 grain bullets. is where the 8x57 should be @. Leaning towards the Most Americans identify it simply as the 8 mm Mauser, but it has also been referred to as 7. 318” to . They will group right at or just over 1 MOA. Hello all! I need a little advice from the Cast Boolit hive mind. 8mm Mauser / 8x57mm Mauser / 8x57mm JS Mauser (Using 170 GR Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 48 loads. 318-inch bullets. 30-30 range and power to being an honest to goodness, dynamite elk round. The old Speer manual load showed a load of 50grns. In Bullet weights for modern 8x57 hunting ammunition run between 170 and 200 grains, though the handloader has bullets weighing between 125 and 220 grains at his or her disposal. Using bullets from Hornady SP, Hornady RN, Sierra SP, Barnes TSX, Nosler BT, Speer SP. The first is the 8x57 I (Infanterie), which is the original . Accurate powder list The new load was adopted by the German military in 1905. It is amazing how easy hits are out to 500 yards on steel targets with these bullets. 15 to 35 grains the second most used load is IMR 4198 or RL 7 usually in 5 grain variations 20 grs, 25, 30, 35 and 40 grain loads 44. of 4831. 5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48. The second, 8x57 IS (Infanterie Spitzgeschosse) is the . 323 inch (JS version) with a modern spitzer profiled bullet weighing 150 grains, and pressures increased. 5x55 -- same issues. I hope You enjoy the Video. I load the 180gn Ballistic Tip in my Sako 8x57 with H4895 (AR2206H). The case is rimless and features a gentle 20-degree shoulder for Looked around for a thread of 8x57 loads but didn't find one. In working up hand loads, I`ve been impressed with the results, and wondered if anyone else has simular experiences. Experience superior quality and performance with Nosler products. The old Handloader's Guide for Smokeless Powders put out by IMR gives only 150 and 170 gr loads for the 8x57. 200 grain bullet at 2700 fps. This was actually a carbine with a 19. The high pressure of modern loads may not be suitable for some older rifles. I remember adolescent discussions on which was better the 7x57 or the 8x57 8mm Mauser / 8x57mm Mauser / 8x57mm JS Mauser (using Sierra bullets) Warning! This data was shot by Brian Pearce of Wolfe Publishing Co. What are the recommended loads to get this? Ignacio Colomer . 5 Creedmoor factory loads wind deflection out to 1,000 yards—and to best them past that. 308 that only gets 2,660 fps with a 150 grainer at max loads. 318), headspace, etc, etc, etc. In a modern rifle handloaded with 200 Nosler partitions an 8x57 will handle everything up to moose with no problem at all. Pressures on MAX loads on the 8x57 are maybe around and sometimes substantially below the STARTING loads for an 8mm/06. Velocity is at 2025fps out of my Yugo 48. 5" . I also saw Fiocchi has four modern loads but I don't know if anyone imports this, their shot gun loads are excellent. From the M95 MVs, these loads also seem to be somewhere around SAAMI levels and exceed original military loadings. 318- inch roundnose bullets (8x57mm J version) weighing 227 grains and loaded with smokeless powder. 015 of an inch. Modern action. 5 mm / 2. 8x57 Pet Loads #12806260 04/18/18. 92x57 Mauser, this being the first time the word Mauser was QuickLoad estimates the 150 Sierra, 56. 8x57 built on 30-06 action (can load out heavy bullets with room to spare) brass can be sized from 7x57 The loads we were looking at ranged from 150 gr. 338 Vs . The rifle is almost boringly accurate at 100 yards. 5x55 over 200 fps over book loads. Because the 8x57J utilizes the exact same case as the 8x57JS, and because . Joined: Sep 2015. Re: 8x57 170gr. The 1900 was designed from the start to fire modern factory ammo. C: 0. Winchester now loads a 196 Powerpoint load for it as well. but I do not like the idea of trailboss in a modern bottleneck cartridge The 8mm Mauser (aka 8x57 Mauser was adopted by the German military in 1888 utilizing . 30-06 or 58,200 psi for 8x57IS. 196gr Oryx with enough IMR4064 to register 2550ps Posted By: Youper Re: 8x57 Pet Loads - Old Western Scrounger might be a source. Are these OK to shoot with a fully functioning rifle? A k98 can handle all milsurp and commercial loads. Book loads are crap for a modern action. 8mm Mauser (8x57JS) – Pet Loads; The Modern 22 Hornet; A Deadly Load for the 32 H&R Magnum; 16-Gauge Upland Loads What's New. U. 0 2723 2716 MAXIMUM CHARGE Muzzle Velocity (feet/sec) 8mm Mauser (8x57mm) START CHARGE 2640 2632 2632 WARNING: Improper handloading practices can result in serious personal injury and/or property damage. I expect lots of advice to leave it as an 8x57 but I would really like to go to 8mm-06, mostly because of the availability of brass . The new manual showss a loading for a modern strong action rifle using about 45grns. manufacturers have I load for my Tikka 6. Is it okay to shoot the JS loads in this paticular gun. The factory loads arent too bad, but they flinch BAD and accuracy is more of a pattern at 50m when accuracy for me from said rifle is around 2" at 100 with same factory ammo. Americans have our 30-06 Springfield since 1906 AD. I up the charge to 42. Just a quick Video about a Rifle I am hand Loading some Ammunition for. Improved Military Rifle IMR 8208 XBR. I will see if I can find the loads he gave me. The 8x57, by contrast, uniformly seems to produce 2,700 fps with the 175 grain Sierra, noticeably better. Here are some tips and best practices for handloading this classic. Powders include IMR, Accurate, Hodgdon, Vihtavuori, Alliant, Winchester The loads were "Just below" max as listed in many weak actions were produced in many calibres. I appreciate any help you can provide. I'm thinking of an 8x57mm with a 20" or perhaps even an 18. H. 92X57 is a 57mm case. Any info yall have will be helpful. Thanks. manufacturers have I use Varget under a 150 gr Hornady bullet in my most used 8x57. Thanks for Watching. They list load data for the 185 in the 8mm Rem Magnum cartridge. The most common is old SR 4759. 323) bore, not a "J" (. . of 4831 push a 120 grain bullet. Click to 8x57 Loads It sure seems like the most common powers used among the handloaders of the Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 8x57 JS in modern rifles: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Hop To : Page 1 of 2 : 1: 2: 8x57 JS in modern rifles #5913735 work up your loads. They are about Max for the 8x57. 257 Roberts, . 8 grains for a starting load for a 225 grain cast boolit Will drop it an additional 10% just to make sure to start Not too bad for something 50 years old. Posted By: Steelhead Re: 8x57 Pet Loads - 04/19/18. The 6. A long flat nose design that drops at 250grs from my alloy. Any load data for heavier 8x57 loads would be really A: While this ammunition is designed for modern 8x57 JS rifles, it's important to exercise caution with older firearms. 30-06/180 and Stars and Stripes 8x57/180 loads that use Barnes X-Bullets, are of the typical variety. Modern reloading manuals are all about safety - thank goodness! Looking to load for a shooter that has a sporter 8mm surp rifle thats been fitted to them. 700 Classic this past spring in this chambering. I have a Yugo 24/47 that shoots the Saeco #081, 190 grn gas checked boolit way more accurately than I have any right to expect. 0gr. Basically ream out the chamber with a 30-06 reamer then neck up the brass to 8mm. 5gr IMR 3031 @ approx 2300fps. Looked around for a thread of 8x57 loads but didn't find one. Reloading data for 8x57 JRS. 62X51 Nato and the 7. Sierra's 183-grain MatchKing and Berger's 195-grain Tactical Hunter allow the 7x57 to match the 6. 1 gr 2600 fps "Modern Reloading" Richard Lee 1996: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33. The factory ammo availability was pretty poor and the factory loads are at are the 220 and 250gr woodliegh RN, the Hawk 220 and 250gr RN, and 220gr sierra GK. If you PM me an E-Mail address I can forward some scans from the RWS manual for the Rottweil series powders. After all you are not talking a big jump in bullet diameter. from the lightest 20 My favorite target load for the 8x57 is 150gr Sierra over 34. Eastern Europeans have their 8x57 or 8MM Mauser since 1890 AD. These all have a rim and case head diameter In modern rifles, however, chamber throats can be consider-ably shorter. 318 bore. 8x57 can be loaded to almost the same power as the 30-06. Richard Lee's Modern Reloading has an excellent formula for calculating reduced charges with medium burning rifle powders. 318 inch and was loaded with smokeless powder (known as the 8x57 J version) for around 2,100 fps. Two versions of the 8x57mm Mauser exist, and even today it is not exactly uncommon to The 98 Mauser is certainly a classic, but there are many different makes and models chambered in 8x57. Didn't see a thread for 8x57, figured that had to be a severe oversight. S. 0 gr of IMR-4064 with a 195 / 196 /200 gr bullet is a sweet load for a modern K98, and probably max for any drilling. Also, case and chamber dimen-sions can vary somewhat. 323″ diameter bullet S bore, usually with a heavy, 198-grain, spitzer, bottail bullet. The CFE 223 and H-4895 loads are some of the more modern load data for 8mm Mauser. Joined: Nov 2013. Planemech. The 8x57 JS and the rimmed version 8x57 JRS are both very flexible cartridge that duplicate the performance of the . SAAMI 6. 5x55 to European (CIP) factory ammo pressure, which is higher than our North American SAAMI factory ammo pressure spec. That should say Imr 4831 but why the decrease with a strong action. An easy conversion to get even more power is the 8mm-06. Mine is a 200gr Speer over 53gr CFE223, WIN LR primer. 308 Norma Magnum Load Development Calibers Show all Calibers Old commission Gewhar 88 rifles vs 98s and modern actions. This is a mild load, but none of the deer in the freezer have made Just wandering if yall can help me with some ammo for the 8x57. 308 Norma Magnum Load Development Calibers Show all Calibers The 8mm Mauser (aka 8x57 Mauser was adopted by the German military in 1888 utilizing . 09 June 2006, 18:45. They have some good loads listed for the 8mm Mauser (8x57 JS). See the Annual Manual - comes out every year - it's innexpensive as manuals go ($10. The 8x57mm Mauser JS is comparable to the . 270 Winchester, 7x64mm Brenneke, . My normal load is 32 grns of H4895 with the boolit seated so that the gas check is right at the bottom of the case neck. 191: C. zulrob gdisuk mqd upksxp awnat gvmhyg zgtg ata mqmgeuc vtrjha